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mark kelly's testimony was very, very powerful about how he and gabrielle giffords are gun owners and believe in the importance of guns and owning guns. what i find most frustrating of the testimony from mr. lapierre and others is, there is no solution they appear willing to accept, unless it is guaranteed to stop every single incident of gun violence, and, of course, that's just not going to ever happen. but his argument about background checks and that conversation with senator durbin, for example, criminals won't go through background checks, so, therefore, we can't get rid of the background check loophole. then why do we have background checks at all? is that what the nra is arguing for? it's just very frustrating, because this is a terrible phrase, there is no silver bullet when it comes to gun violence, but there are a bunch of reasonable, rational steps, and the first two i would point to are expanding background checks and dealing with the magazine questions so the 9-year-old girl might still be alive. >> and ruth and chris, the other argument that wayne lapierre made from the
mark kelly's testimony was very, very powerful about how he and gabrielle giffords are gun owners and believe in the importance of guns and owning guns. what i find most frustrating of the testimony from mr. lapierre and others is, there is no solution they appear willing to accept, unless it is guaranteed to stop every single incident of gun violence, and, of course, that's just not going to ever happen. but his argument about background checks and that conversation with senator durbin, for...
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gabrielle giffords with a theoretical argument about the second amendment. the optics play in his favor. early in the debate. i would not give up on this happening. >> there is a second argument that isn't theoretical. it's empirical. we tried this for ten years about it had no effect. so what is going on is competition between the emotional reaction from newtown that wears off over time that always does and where what can we do that will actually work? if you have diminishing strength of influence, on the second one the more you look at this, not having an effect. not going to have an effect. >> bret: one of the back and forth events it was nrabe. wayne lapierre appearing at a back and forth with senator durbin from illinois. >> you hear minority members say you don't get it. it's not just about hunting. ice not just about sports. it's not just about shooting targets. it's not just about defending ourselves from criminals as miss trotter testified. we need the fire power and the ability to protect ourselves from our government. >> what people all over the c
gabrielle giffords with a theoretical argument about the second amendment. the optics play in his favor. early in the debate. i would not give up on this happening. >> there is a second argument that isn't theoretical. it's empirical. we tried this for ten years about it had no effect. so what is going on is competition between the emotional reaction from newtown that wears off over time that always does and where what can we do that will actually work? if you have diminishing strength of...
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former congresswoman gabrielle giffords returned to congress for a senate hearing on gun violence. two years ago, giffords was shot in the head during a shooting spree that killed six people in tucson, arizona. the 71 words gifford spoke today did not come easy for her. but her message is one every american needs to hear. >> thank you for inviting me here today. this is an important conversation for our children, for our communities, for democrats and republicans. speaking is difficult, but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. thank you. >> it remains to be seen if congress will show the same kind of courage gabby giffords displayed today. her husband, captain mark kelly, also testified. kelly's message, demanding change is not the same as taking away people's guns. >> we take that right very seriously, and we would never, ever give it up, just like gabby would never relinquish her g
former congresswoman gabrielle giffords returned to congress for a senate hearing on gun violence. two years ago, giffords was shot in the head during a shooting spree that killed six people in tucson, arizona. the 71 words gifford spoke today did not come easy for her. but her message is one every american needs to hear. >> thank you for inviting me here today. this is an important conversation for our children, for our communities, for democrats and republicans. speaking is difficult,...
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. >> gabrielle giffords, at the senate judiciary hearing. >> giffords made a plea for action. >> the bold, the courageous americans are counting on you. >> behind every victim lays a matrix of failure. >> mark kelly, husband of gabrielle giffords. >> rights demand responsibility. first, fix gun background checks. >> it is not a serious solution for reducing crime. >> the nra is clearly, dramatically out of step. >> lapierre dismissed background checks. >> background checks will never be universal. >> you will never get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> because criminals will never submit to them. >> they will not go to purchase the guns because there will be a background check. >> you missed the point completely. and i think it is basic. >> senator, i think you -- >> let there be order. >> i think you're missing it. >> let there be more. >> if chairman patrick leahy pressed lapierre. >> if you're a dealer, that is already the law. >> please, mr. lapierre, i'm not trying to play games here, but if you could just answer the question. >> rights demand responsibilit
. >> gabrielle giffords, at the senate judiciary hearing. >> giffords made a plea for action. >> the bold, the courageous americans are counting on you. >> behind every victim lays a matrix of failure. >> mark kelly, husband of gabrielle giffords. >> rights demand responsibility. first, fix gun background checks. >> it is not a serious solution for reducing crime. >> the nra is clearly, dramatically out of step. >> lapierre dismissed...
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also, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords's husband, mark kelly, will testify. joining me, mark smythe, a contributor to "msnbc." i want to go the line i first quoted. wayne lapierre, this comment sounds reasonable until you think about it. law abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of deranged criminals. a law abiding gun owner is responsible for what happened in newtown, connecticut. a law abiding mother was a gun owner, by all accounts, and that law abiding gun owner couldn't control her weapons, and those weapons were eventually used to kill her and to kill all of those children and those women educators in that school. so that is what one law abiding gun owner got us. >> that is a good point, lawrence. >> and that is what neil heslin was saying in his testimony, was that that woman should never have had those weapons in that home with -- you know, knowing
also, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords's husband, mark kelly, will testify. joining me, mark smythe, a contributor to "msnbc." i want to go the line i first quoted. wayne lapierre, this comment sounds reasonable until you think about it. law abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of deranged criminals. a law abiding gun owner is responsible for what happened in newtown, connecticut. a law abiding mother was a gun owner, by all accounts, and that law abiding gun...
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thank you. >> an emotional moment with former congresswoman gabrielle giffords testifying before the senate judiciary hearing. just over two years since she was shot. i'm joined at the desk with joe johns. even after congresswoman giffords was shot, there was still no appetite for any gun control in congress. not just among republicans but among many key democrats. what do you see actually happening, if anything, after this newtown shooting just 47 days ago? >> background checks is something that a lot of people are saying they can certainly beef up especially as it relates to people who have mental health problems. they've been talking about that for more than a decade. clearly more needs to be done. so many times when you see one of these mass shootings, there's a mental health element involved. there's another thing. the nra says you just need to enforce the rules that are already in place. there's one place where there is a gap. that is in the issue of gun trafficking. there's not a federal gun trafficking statute. a lot of people are saying perhaps we can work on things along th
thank you. >> an emotional moment with former congresswoman gabrielle giffords testifying before the senate judiciary hearing. just over two years since she was shot. i'm joined at the desk with joe johns. even after congresswoman giffords was shot, there was still no appetite for any gun control in congress. not just among republicans but among many key democrats. what do you see actually happening, if anything, after this newtown shooting just 47 days ago? >> background checks is...
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first i want to talk about the moment when we saw gabrielle giffords. this really, in some ways, is a game changer. everybody pays attention. everybody watches no matter how you feel about the gun debate, clearly that was the moment of the morning. >> there is no question about it. for members of the senate to look at one of their own, a fellow former member of congress speaking so haltingly and trying so hard to get out the few sentences that she had. more importantly to make the point she wanted to make which is even though she's a gun owner and supporter she thinks safety needs to come first. along those lines of emotion, there definitely was a moment that her husband had later in the hearing about the issue and about the shooting that took place that killed six people. he was trying to make the argument for limiting those high capacity rounds. he talkeded about the fact that jared loughner, the shooter, his gun effectively jammed and what would have been if rounds had been limited. >> icon tend if the same thing happened when he was trying to reload
first i want to talk about the moment when we saw gabrielle giffords. this really, in some ways, is a game changer. everybody pays attention. everybody watches no matter how you feel about the gun debate, clearly that was the moment of the morning. >> there is no question about it. for members of the senate to look at one of their own, a fellow former member of congress speaking so haltingly and trying so hard to get out the few sentences that she had. more importantly to make the point...
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former congresswoman gabrielle giffords nearly killed by a bullet seated at the same witness table as the nra's wayne lapierre. >> you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> as the rest of the country comes to the realization, something must be done to prevent gun violence. the nra and the allies in the republican party are digging in. we'll look at what president obama can and can't accomplish on gun safety at the top of the program. >>> plus does president obama want a deal on illegal immigration? which would be huge on his legacy. or does he want the issue hanging around so republicans get punished at the polls by latino voters. we'll get some answers tonight. >>> and it may be last call for the tea party. consider this. republicans with national ambitions claim they want tome to stop being the stupid party. conservatives are working with democrats on illegal immigration. and fox news parts ways with sarah palin. dana milbank says it's all evidence the tea party is losing steam and he's with us tonight. >>> plus the boy scouts of america are considering
former congresswoman gabrielle giffords nearly killed by a bullet seated at the same witness table as the nra's wayne lapierre. >> you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> as the rest of the country comes to the realization, something must be done to prevent gun violence. the nra and the allies in the republican party are digging in. we'll look at what president obama can and can't accomplish on gun safety at the top of the program. >>> plus...
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we'll hear from wayne lapierre air and former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. this is "the daily rundown." also developing this morning, news that the economy unexpectedly contracted in the last quarter of 2012. most of it is a result of weaker expo exports, decreased military spending and other factors. we'll be keeping an eye on the markets this morning to see how they react to this. there was an expectation that there would be some slowdown in the economy, but an actual contraction did catch a bunch of analysts off guard. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. speaking of the economy and jobs, they continue to be issues. the public says they care most about. but it isn't dominating capitol hill. does that change today, by the way? but guns and immigration are taking up most of the political oxygen, just about an hour from now. the next phase of the fight begins on the gun issue. former congresswoman gabrielle giffords returns to capitol hill two years after she was seriously injured in the mass shooting that killed six people in arizona. she will
we'll hear from wayne lapierre air and former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. this is "the daily rundown." also developing this morning, news that the economy unexpectedly contracted in the last quarter of 2012. most of it is a result of weaker expo exports, decreased military spending and other factors. we'll be keeping an eye on the markets this morning to see how they react to this. there was an expectation that there would be some slowdown in the economy, but an actual...
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former arizona congressman gabrielle giffords was the first to speak, delivering an emotional call to action. >> speaking is difficult, but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. thank you. >> giffords's testimony was followed by an intense day of questioning including patrick leahy and dick durbin taking on the head of nra. wayne la pierre. >> should we have mandatory background checks at gun shows for the sales? >> if you are a dealer, that's already the law. >> that's not my question. i'm not trying to play games here. if you could, just answer my question. >> i do not believe the way the law is working now unfortunately that it does any good to extend the law to private sales in collectors. >> worry all due respect that was not the question asked. >> i think it is the answer. we have to get in the real world on what works and doesn't work. my problem with background checks is you are
former arizona congressman gabrielle giffords was the first to speak, delivering an emotional call to action. >> speaking is difficult, but i need to say something important. violence is a big problem. too many children are dying. too many children. we must do something. it will be hard, but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. thank you. >> giffords's testimony was followed by an intense day of questioning including patrick leahy and...
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you will hear gabrielle giffords in her emotional statement before lawmakers and the nra. ngy teaching the perfect swing begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and maybe have to take up to four in a day. or take aleve, which can relieve pain all day with just two pills. good eye. let's see if walmart's low price guarantee can make you the mvp of savings. look at that price. wow! walmart lowers thousands of prices every week. if you find a lower advertised price, they'll match it at the...